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Tuesday, November 28, 2006

gorilla vs. bear's "how can you not like hip-hop?" mix



This mix is inspired by and dedicated to my good friend Skatterbrain, who claims he doesn't like hip-hop (although he once thought it was really cool to wear his pants backwards. true story). We have eerily similar taste in most other aspects (although he likes twee more than he should), but hip-hop doesn't do anything for him, he says. I know a lot of these are somewhat obvious choices, but remember this is for a kid that is lost and very confused. These aren't necessarily my favorite songs by these artists; instead, they are (according to me) the most inherently likeable songs, and more importantly, songs that I felt would be a good starting point for someone who thinks they don't like hip-hop. Seriously, there's no way you can't like these songs.

A Tribe Called Quest Award Tour mp3
Black Sheep The Choice Is Yours mp3
Camp Lo Luchini (This is it) mp3
Hieroglyphics Classic mp3
Deltron Mastermind mp3
De La Soul A Rollerskating Jam Named Saturdays mp3
Souls of Mischief '93 til infinity mp3
Pete Rock & CL Smooth T.R.O.Y. mp3

bonus:
Watch the video for "A Rollerskating Jam Named Saturdays" here

Please help Skatterbrain, and people like him, by leaving your recommendations in the comments...

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66 comments:

Anonymous Anonymous said...

it's impossible to not like hip-hop. it's easy to find bad hip-hop. but when you find the good stuff...oooohhhhweeeee

8:17 PM  
Blogger wwjblog said...

hip hop is lame.

8:32 PM  
Blogger Zine-O-Phonic said...

I've kinda grown away from hip hop over the past 5-6 years. All of the commercial stuff became commercials, and I just didn't have any exposure to really good underground stuff in my po-dunk college town. The last hip hop record I heard that I thought was great was Redman and Method Man's Blackout album. I think that was out in 99-00? well actually Saul Williams' last record was pretty damn good.

I'm willing to take suggestions for new good hip hop. I prefer lyrically strong and intelligent hip hop(fugees, Tribe, wu tang), not just alpha dog machismo or songs about fucking.

8:45 PM  
Blogger sean said...

WU-TANG meets Indie Culture is really good, Anything MF Doom does is likeable as well. The new JDILLA album has it's moments.

8:59 PM  
Anonymous Darius said...

At the risk of getting too existential I think to "like" hiphop a person cannot compare it to other forms of music (or even other forms of reality).

It's ridiculousness just needs to be accepted on its own terms. Then you can get down to it.

9:17 PM  
Anonymous Ardy said...

I'd recommend Thin Red Line by Typical Cats. It's trade-off style rap over jazz beats.

9:33 PM  
Blogger connor said...

can't get much more twee than voxtrot dude

9:44 PM  
Blogger Chris said...

yeah, i was half kidding. but you can get significantly twee-er than voxtrot.

9:53 PM  
Blogger Adam said...

Really lovin the new Jedi Mind Tricks Album "Servants in heaven, Kings in hell." Somewhat dorky political minded hip-hop to be sure, but I LUV the emcee's cookie monster flow and many of the beats could be instrumental tracks all on their own.

10:02 PM  
Blogger Kevin said...

"hip hop is lame" ... worst argument ever. Sorry, Jesus.

You need Digable up on there! That's essential.

More suggestions for those weary of commercial hip-hop and would like to break in slowly:

The Roots
Murs (he's becoming my favorite)
People Under the Stairs
Jurassic 5

I don't know that we'll ever see a "golden age" like there was in late 80s/early 90s, but there's plenty of great stuff out there.

10:34 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

connor sucks.

10:36 PM  
Blogger CLARE. said...

I can't really add to the "Hip-hop: cool or lame?" argument but the inclusion of "Luchini" made me smile. Let's get rich, whhhaaat??

10:37 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Pharcyde - Passing Me By
O.C. - Time's Up
Black Moon- How Many Mcs
Nas- It Ain't Hard to Tell
Jeru tha Damaja - Come Clean
Gang Starr- Mass Appeal
Rakim- Don't Sweat the Technique
Slick Rick- Children's Story

Too many to list...

11:07 PM  
Anonymous zog said...

j-dilla
lyrics born
quasimoto
madlib
metal fingers
blackalicious
:all artists that should be heard

11:36 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Some more mainstream classics:
(1) A Tribe Called Quest - Excursions
(2) Black Star - DEFinition
(3) Blackalicious - Deception
(4) Common - Resurrection
(5) Mos Def - Ms. Fat Booty
(6) Talib Kweli - Get By

Or, alternatively, perhaps, ease 'em into it with mash-ups/remixes such as:
(1) Ghostface Killah & Jadakiss - Run (Ratatat remix)
(2) Ghostface v. Radiohead - Daytona 500/Iron Lung (Panzah Zandahz mash-up)

Or some random quasi-indie stuff like:
(1) El-P - Stepfather Factory
(2) Sole - Tourist Trapeze

11:44 PM  
Anonymous Darius said...

Commercial Hip-hop is destroying the underground right now imo.

Anything by:

Ghostface
Lil Wayne
Cam'ron
Clipse
Jadakiss
Roots

is fire right now.

On the more indie tip, check out the new K-Os album.

12:03 AM  
Blogger Matt said...

conner, you can go miles twee-er than voxtrot. who, mind you, are only written off as twee, due to the jangly guitar that makes everyone shout twee. not to mention, mothers, daughters... wasnt twee at all, anyway, so like, shhhhhhh.

12:35 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

New 2006 =

Jedi Mind Tricks
T.I.
Ghostface
Clipse
Masta Killa
Hi Tek
sure there is more i'm forgetting...

Old =

Pharcyde
Rakim
P.E.
NWA
Roots
Wu
Tribe
Hiro
Nas
Jay-Z
Slick Rick
BIG
Tupac
etc...
sure there is more i'm forgetting...

12:52 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

i forgive you for not mentioning Mr. Lif yet, but you will be remiss if you do not include him in some sort of addendum.
Call him backpacker music if you want, but for anyone calling hip hop lame or categorizing it as 'fucking bitches and bling', this is the antithesis.
get Phantom from 'Emergency Rations' for sure.
Prefuse 73 IS HIP HOP. so get that. so is a lot of RJD2.
Sole and Clouddead are that all whole anticon scene, which again, call it what you want. But its different and its good.
Mos Def and Talib are Blackstar. easy choice.
The Coup is good hip hop.
The Last Emperor. Definitely get Secret Wars, its amazing. 'What if I had the power to gather all of my favorite emcees, with the illest comic book characters and they became arch enemies?' and then it goes off from there pitting emcees vs comic book heroes like Doc Octapus vs. Busta Rhymes. or Ras Kass vs Magneto.

how can you not like Hip Hop? i dont hear Colin Meloy singing about The Hulk vs Ben Gibbard.

2:38 AM  
Anonymous Ian said...

Rock 'n' Roll (Could Never Hip Hop Like This) by Handsome Boy Modelling School should see him right. Alternatively Good Times Roll Part 2 by RJD2... not rappy hippety hop, but hip hop nevertheless

2:42 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

snoop's blue carpet treatment is bangin!!!

in case you haven't already, peep dat shit!!


...all tracks listed on here are dope

peace

3:41 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

This isn't bad, but this place has a better hip hop essential mix tape.

http://www.indoorpalace.com/?p=64

5:32 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

This is a much better collection of hip hop greats. Check it out here

http://www.indoorpalace.com/?p=64

5:33 AM  
Blogger eardrum said...

The compilation is cool, thanks! But the cassette generator is even cooler!!!

6:04 AM  
Anonymous ChrisMackey said...

I can't stand hip-hop and rap... at all. It's not for lack of trying (I've been to hip-hop shows, own records, etc), I just can't relate to it.

7:20 AM  
Blogger wildfire said...

A to Z By blackalicious is the song that got me into hip hop. It is kind of impossible to not like, I think.

No Regrets by Aesop Rock (and all of Labor Days really) came next.

Quality Control by Jurrasic 5 is a good place to start too. I'd expect Kanye, Lupe Fiasco or Common/Mos/Talib Kweli/Blackstar could all work too.

I would definitely recommend NOT starting with things like Wu-Tang, MF Doom and Cam-ron, although all are good.

7:25 AM  
Blogger Patrick said...

For a first time hip-hop listener, I'd probably suggest the following:

- AZ - Paradise
- Lords of the Underground - Chief Rocka
- Common - The Light
- Cunninlynguists - Seasons or Lynguistics
- Run DMC - Peter Piper
- Kool G. Rap - My Life
- Jay-Z - Dead Presidents
- Aesop Rock - Daylight
- Deltron3030 - Positive Contact
- Anything by Madlib or People Under the Stairs

7:50 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

camp-lo is definitly a good call!

8:02 AM  
Blogger xlax999999 said...

Underground Stuff (Thoughtful lyrics
over AMAZING beats):

Ugly Duckling
Giant Panda
Starving Artists Crew
Insight (check out the Shinsight Trio)
The Sound Providers

To check out the Sound Providers go to iTunes Podcast section and download the IndeieFeed - Hip/Hop song of the day. The past two or three day's songs have been The Sound Providers.

8:22 AM  
Blogger Nathan said...

If you are trying to get an indie kid into hip hop...there is only one way to go; check out the original dr.octagon record. Weird, with good beats.

8:51 AM  
Blogger Chris said...

lots of good recommendations, thanks guys. i need to check some of these out.

9:06 AM  
Blogger sheryl said...

outkast...ATLiens...that album is definitely in my top 5 albums ever. elevators, jazzy belle, 13th floor, ridiculously good.

9:28 AM  
Anonymous Trey said...

soul position...sooo tight. and tell 'em to check out foreign exchange. he will not be disappointed.

11:19 AM  
Blogger ack said...

ha ha - as far as new g vs b theme songs, you might need to jump all over the new CL record. he has a killer track called gorilla pimpin'

11:25 AM  
Blogger fakenordic said...

I feel raped:

posted I while ago

Just kidding.

1:52 PM  
Anonymous bryan said...

i agree with darius, commericial hip hop is doing pretty well for itself right now.

i'm usually not a neptunes fan (besides jay-z's 'i just wanna love you') but they did okay for themselves on the new clipse album. the beats are exceptional.

cam'ron is a fun time if you don't take him too seriously. not to mention the beats in his songs are quite good.

2:41 PM  
Blogger Allen said...

i feel so very depressed that nobody's yet to mention Brother Ali. Is there any other underground emcee as underrated as him?

Shadows on the Sun is a modern classic that should not only be checked out by hip-hop fans, but music fans in general. It's brilliant old-school fun.

3:52 PM  
Anonymous moka said...

I still dont like the hipitihop but I loved the link to http://www.says-it.com/cassette

it's pretty funny to be writing stupid and obscene things and see them on cassetes. now you know what I'll be doing the next couple hours.

4:31 PM  
Blogger Chris said...

haha..i'd love to see what you come up w/ moka. post your tapes.

4:41 PM  
Anonymous Leif said...

Indie heads will love these:

Panacea - Ink Is My Drink
Five Deez - Kommunicator

thank me later

4:53 PM  
Blogger Kevin said...

I second Leif's selection of Five Deez.

7:02 PM  
Blogger Chris said...

i keep hearing about Five Deez, i'll check em. thanks guys.

7:27 PM  
Blogger brianp said...

I don't care what anybody says, there were some great hip-hop releases this year. For example: T.I., M-1 (of Dead Prez), Ghostface, Birdman & Lil' Wayne, Yo Gotti, B.G., Lil' Boosie, Scarface, Snoop, Jay-Z, the Game, and Clipse, to name just a few off the top of my head. And I'm looking forward to the new one by Nas. What's not to like?

12:13 AM  
Blogger k. said...

nice selection chris for the hip hop impaired.

9:05 AM  
Anonymous b chapman said...

i would definitely put some ras kass on there...just ridiculous.

"like a crown of thorns i'm on point like a unicorn in cuneiform"

come on man!

11:35 AM  
Blogger heat said...

check out sixth boro if you want to hear awesome under-undergroundness.

http://www.myspace.com/teksbookentertainment

11:36 AM  
Anonymous Emily said...

I am sorely disappointed that through the development of this comment page, and the addition of some true greats, no one has mentioned Aceyalone.

Ace-One (as we fanatics call him) has been on the scene forever and is far under acknowledged. His new album with RJD2 is so accessible to non-heads, it's ridiculous. I don't know anyone who doesn't like this album.

He is an amazing emcee, some of the best lyrics you will find, and happily not overshadowed or shamed by poppy or glum beats.

ACEYALONE.

3:23 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

this is hella good
i intensely support this mix and any other mixes like this


consider me satisfied
(and check out sage francis, atmosphere, aesop rock and madvillain if you haven't already)

6:28 PM  
Blogger Jim said...

EPMD - Crossover

11:06 PM  
Blogger Joseph said...

Good stuff so far. Also check out:
Edan - Beauty and the Beat
Immortal Technique - Revolutionary, Vol. 2

11:59 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Ten more songs that even Skatterbrain should like (with a couple links for the rest of you):

The Coup - My Favorite Mutiny
Blue Scholars - selfPortrait
Large Professor - IJUSWANNACHILL
People Under the Stairs - Acid Raindrops
UMC's - One to Grow On
Nas - NY State of Mind
Buckshot LeFonque - Music Evolution
Haiku D'Etat - Non Compos Mentis
Eric B & Rakim - Guess Who's Back
Immortal Technique - Harlem Streets

8:36 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

80's hip-hop is the only way to go. It all died in the 90's and totally sucks ass now.

Here's today's hip-hop recipe: Repeat same phrase over and over and over and over and over..., have 50 people on stage to help you out with some "yeahs" and some "uhhhs"; oh, and then add "(Feat. __insert other artists here__)" to every fucking song title.

Yes, hip-hop is lame.

2:17 PM  
Blogger mikeill889 said...

wow... i'm impressed... by both the list (especially) and ignorant repsonses. how dumb can you get? ooooo, ouch. :) sorry if you're offended by that, but clearly i'm not talking about you.

i was going to mention mr. lif too... so thanks to whoever said.... "i forgive you for not mentioning Mr. Lif yet, but you will be remiss if you do not include him in some sort of addendum."

i must also mention aloe blacc, blu, count bass d, time machine, and latyrx... if they haven't mentioned already.

3:37 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Dead Prez: Hip Hop

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