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Wednesday, April 15, 2009

crystal castles vs. dallas

Interesting evening in Dallas last night, as VEGA was kicked off the Crystal Castles bill by CC's management for something that Alan Palomo of Vega vehemently denies. CC proceeded to cancel the sold-out show altogether at around 10 PM due to what they claim was an "ill-equipped" soundsystem (a soundsystem which has accomodated the likes of Animal Collective, Holy Fuck, Ratatat, and countless other acts with extensive sound needs in the recent past). Chances are you don't care about this either way unless you're a fan of the band or were one of the thousand or so kids waiting outside for 2+ hours for the show to start, but here goes, and you can make up your own mind:

My hasty tweets last night about the evening's events prompted the following response from a representative of the Crystal Castles, which, of course, the Granada Theater categorically denies in their reply, after the jump...


From a representative of Crystal Castles:

"a) Vegas (sic) were not kicked off for "petty bullshit", if Vegas want to try to create an internet meme out of this that's fine, whatever.

b) CC obviously did not want to leave 1000+ people hanging outside. The people at Granada pulled the plug on CC during CC's soundcheck, claiming they feared CC would "blow the soundsystem." The people at Granada tried to rent (at the last minute) proper speakers that would not "blow" for the show but it just couldn't happen on short notice. At one point they thought they had found professional speakers but 2 hours later this fell through and the decision was made that the show could not happen. Also of note, a DJ had blown their speakers a few weeks ago and they did not want this to happen again. They said they couldn't afford to repair the speakers again. It would be nice if you knew the truth and were fair to the band since this wasn't their fault. The blame goes to whoever booked this band at this ill-equipped venue."

and finally:

"Vega stole an FX-Pedal from CC. If this is not a good reason to get kicked off a bill and (possibly) get blacklisted by a promoter I don't know what is. Worst part is CC liked the guys and tried to convince us to forgive them."

VEGA's Alan Palomo denies this: "Fucking bullshit." Apparently CC borrowed one of VEGA's guitars in Austin the previous night, and the FX-pedal ended up in the guitar cab. As soon as Vega realized they were in possession of one of CC's pedals (shortly after the Austin show), they called CC's management to rectify the situation, and arranged to return the pedal in Dallas. Both the venue and Vega feel that Crystal Castles had no intention of playing this show with Vega on the bill from the beginning. Listen to audio of Palomo's response here.


Mike Schoder, owner of the Granada, sent this reply:

"Let me start with a definition:
Prima donna:
Prima donnas cannot help the way they are because their parents spoiled them and they are still developing their personalities.
All a prima donna has to do is whine and their parents give them what they want.

Here's how our day went at the Granada on Tue:
Vega (Alan from Ghosthustler) opened for CC in Austin Monday night.
At 5pm (3 hrs before doors) we received a call from CC that Vega could not be on the bill.
Vega had been approved by CC in advance for the bill.
Early on Tue CC hired a light tech from Austin that is also a DJ to replace Vega.
CC could have communicated with Vega early in the day before they left Austin.
Vega was at the Granada waiting to soundcheck.
CC would not enter the building until Vega was gone from the premise.
Alan was super cool. No prima donna.
We've never seen this request. The other co-promoter out of Austin has never seen this kind of request.
CC whining...
CC soundchecked at 6pm instead of at 4pm.
CC didn't "like the sound of their kickdrum".
CC insists that "more woofers be brought in".
Rental places close at 6pm.
It is now 7pm.
Granada has 16 - 18" sub-woofers and 12 - 15" sub-woofers. Also 32 - 8" midranges. Lots of firepower.
Sound check was great.
CC says they would rather cancel the show than possibly not have enough kick drum.
Granada begs that the show goes on.
Granada even offers to dismantle sub woofer stacks and place them in different places in the room.
Granada was willing to do anything to have the show go on.
CC waits until after 10pm to give final cancellation.

The show must go on. Life is all perception. One person sees the day as beautiful, another sees the day as crap.
Why would any band crap on their fans like this?
Insecurity is a cancer. Love yourself. Love your sound guy and the system at the club you are playing.
Play the show. Then listen to your fans. If you don't like the sound at a club never go back to the club.
We've had every big band imaginable in every genre imaginable and had amazing shows.
Nobody has complained about our sound. This is totally out of left field.
The sound at Granada is amazing...and would have been if CC would have just got on stage and played.

Today Granada is refunding ticket cost and entire service charge to each patron.
No one cares for live music more than we do. We've put together an amazing room, staff and sound system.
We'll see you soon fellow music fans.

Mike Schoder and all the Staff at Granada.


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Anonymous Pooneh said...

Insane what difference a day makes (compared to the Austin gig). Sorry it all turned sour in Dallas :(

12:30 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

cc have no talent live anyways... shittiest show ever music wise...

12:34 PM  
Anonymous jared said...

so the last bit, seems the most likely to have happen only because the explanation is the simplest and most well written.

ssigh. it was a great austin show, even if i went home at 10:20.!

12:36 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

really LAME-O. way to disappoint your fans CC.

12:38 PM  
Anonymous Jesse said...

Hmmm. I think I'll have to side with VEGA and Granada on this one.

12:40 PM  
Anonymous Sean Cannon said...

This is the kind of drama that makes life worth living. Can't wait to see if there's any more said from either side.

12:47 PM  
Anonymous glo said...

Dear CC:
Go get a double headed douche and use it on your dual vaginas.

12:53 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Yeah, have to side with Granada. They're a world class venue with the friendliest ownership / staff in the city.

CC is desperately trying to spin this in their favor to avoid the inevitable, but I doubt they can lie their way out of it. Really, really pretentious people who've attached way too much importance to themselves. Fools should be ashamed and should remember they're one band in a sea of many. No one pulls this, especially when C3 is the promoter. Stupid mistake, to say the least.

12:56 PM  
Blogger rhinestone neckbrace said...

i have played there twice once opening for that ratatat show and not only was the pa loud, the people at the grenada were fantastic

12:58 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

CC are the biggest assholes around. I knew this awhile ago, glad to see people are finally waking up. Plus they don't really know how to perform, they just scream, jump in the crowd and press play. Fuck those cunts

12:58 PM  
Blogger Terry said...

I was already suspect of CC after they canceled their Portland, OR show March 8th because of a car accident. I'm wondering...clearly they have issues.

1:17 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I'm just going with the crowd I guess, but I'ma side with Vega/Granada on this too. You don't just kick someone off the bill RIGHT before a show and then go on to leave 1000+ fans sitting in the dust. CC's explanation doesn't satisfy at all.

1:20 PM  
Anonymous luther said...

That's really disappointing. The Granada is a great venue, I miss their quality in Austin, where a lot of places aren't nearly as up to snuff as them in sound. I pretty much have no doubt that the Granada's version of the events is the more accurate one.

1:20 PM  
Blogger drex said...

i have a fx pedal for sale dirt cheap if anyone is interested

1:22 PM  
Blogger fill said...

Way to fuck everybody over CC.

1:23 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

haha @drex

1:29 PM  
Anonymous F. E. Castleberry said...

I cared about hearing this. I was one of those people standing outside. Thank you for the post.

1:38 PM  
Blogger Chris said...

Granada's sound can be hit or miss but that's no reason to cancel a show and leave a thousand of your fans rightfully pissed off.

1:44 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

crystal cunts

1:53 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

years ago, i could feel my balls rattle as i saw the flaming lips at the granada. you can hear the kick drum, and the base drum, and to the untrained ear it sounds good if you are 4-5 beers in. so fuck them dudes.

1:55 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I'm friends with the manager of VEGA (and I know Alan too - and he is a super cool person), and what the granada said was right on the dot with what my friend said happened (who had to deal with the shit of them pulling them off the bill fucking three hours before the show was to begin).

I also was someone who stood in line for 2 1/2 hours waiting for them to go on and had given away my tickets to the austin show to some kids in need because I figured i'd see them in dallas and didn't need to be greedy. it was really fucking shitty. I'm going to agree with this comment: Fuck those cunts.

2:14 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

From my own experience: Mike at The Granada is great. He is friendly and accommodating. The sound is great. The sound crew is top notch. The booking agents are thorough. Alan of Vega is professional and friendly.

2:22 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The sound system is at the Granada is pretty great imo. Sounds like CC are just a couple of dickholes.

2:26 PM  
Blogger Doneski said...

I was back stage with Vega at the CC show in Austin. They seemed like nice guys and even said thank you for letting them use their guitar.

When I heard that they were kicked off the bill... I was as confused and surprised by it as anyone. Just the night before CC and Vega were making plans to hang out in Dallas.

Sorry to the people of Dallas... but to be honest... the Crystal Castles show in Austin wasn't that great... and very short. Maybe 45 minutes.

2:27 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

no way Alan intentionally took anything from those fuckstixxx. he's one of the nicest, most standup dudes around. don't buy CC's shit for one second.

2:30 PM  
Blogger soft taco said...

cc will soon by sucking vega as hard as possible to open for them! pathetic esp. to make fans wait for 2.5 hours fucking pathetic, prob needed more kick drum to cover up their terrible live instruments/singing

2:42 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

i'm so disappointed. I was really looking forward to seeing them both at the same venue. sighhh.

2:43 PM  
Blogger Jasmine said...

Yeah, I totally feel screwed by CC. It's a shame because I really love their music and hear they put on a great show.

Thank goodness Granada is nice enough to give out a refund.

2:50 PM  
Anonymous Nate Binford said...

I am a venue manager for the Granada Theater, and we've obviously been working the issue all day.

First of all. Money has been refunded to all customers who purchased with a credit card.

Secondly, there were no concerns about our sound system, and it has never 'been blown' by a DJ or anyone else...ever.

I'm sure its possible...some how...to damage our system, but we've had Zakk Wylde, Obituary, System of a Down and Serj Tankian, Explosions In The Sky, Mogwai and many other bands who like to play loud.

People can tell the difference between explanations and excuses. The Granada Theater's reputation speaks for itself.

PLUS: In addition to refunds, we're giving away free tickets to everyone that bought their tickets online to last night's show.

What's Crystal Castles doing to make this better?

2:55 PM  
Anonymous Instant Karma said...

karma's a bitch, YALL

3:01 PM  
Anonymous Paul said...

I stopped listening to CC after hearing they tried to steal a bunch of video game samples w/o acquiring licensing... Trying to pass other people's music off as your own? Nice tryyyyyy.

3:07 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

If I could bitch slap Alice Cunt in the face I would happily and multiple times. The dude sounds like a right cunt too. He gets a kick in the nuts.

Fuck those fuckers. This needs to be spread around. People need to be warned, boycott these hacks. Fuck nuts

3:10 PM  
Anonymous Brad said...

I've been to probably 15 shows at The Granada and have had the most fun ever there. It is THE best venue in Dallas and possibly Texas to see bands play live. It's pretty clear CC were insecure. Props to Granada for all your work you've done in the past to make shows worth every penny spent.

A side note, I really really want to see Jenny Lewis but have recently lost my job so I can't afford to go. Sorry for the lost revenue. xoxo

3:18 PM  
Blogger Richard said...

I have to say that I would believe Vega and Granada over Crystal Castles. The band is ridiculously full of themselves.I'll admit that the show in Austin was mildly entertaining but they should be acting less like snobs and be grateful that so many people are willing to watch an hour of a her screaming into the mic. High hats are not the problem...

Plus an 8 song set? Austin show seemed like take the money and run...

3:23 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Someone needs to take the time to properly write an "even-sided" documentation of this on Wikipedia so those bastards will get theirs. I would, but alas I am ill equipped to write properly and lack the time.


Granada is definitely in the clear on this one from taking everything into consideration.

I sure didn't appreciate paying $21.50 to stand in line for 2 hours.

3:28 PM  
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3:30 PM  
Blogger M said...

Wow. CC is acting like they're the fucking Stones or something. Way to go treat paying fans that want to go see your set. Too bad VEGA and the venue had to be dragged into this BS.

3:31 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"Instant Karma said...

karma's a bitch, YALL"

who's karma is it though. I don't think that many fans did anything shitty enough to deserve that. or vega. Or the granada for that matter, and now they have to deal with refunding everyone. we'll see if karma works out if crystal castles gets shit on for shitting on vega, granada and their fans.

3:38 PM  
Anonymous J. Miller said...

having performed at the Granada I know there sound system is more than adequate and i'm sure crystal castles have played in many, many worse sounding rooms and on many, many worse PAs. who the hell is the TM for that tour?

3:54 PM  
Anonymous promoter said...

this shit will spread like wildfire to venues, promoters and festivals.

boo on crystal castles...amature hour.

3:54 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The Austin show killed!! But Vega suck balls!! Big Time!! So...Dallas, sorry about missing CC but they did you a favor in not having to listen to the shit from Vega. Im talking they suck bad!

3:55 PM  
Anonymous Corina said...

Phfftttttttt.... CC has played a billion bad sound systems without a care in the world.

I'm getting a little sick of their fame... they put out some awesome demos, now Alice just screams on the distortion and people clap. Lame.

4:01 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

poor vega. not going anywhere fast when they could have lol

4:04 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Phone Interview with VEGA on the air at Indie-verse explaining their side of the accusations.


4:11 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

crystal cancels.

4:14 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

In Miami, no later than 5 minutes after they started, the dude from CC threw the mic on the floor, said "fuck this place" and left, supposedly because of the sound system, but 20 minutes later The Presets were killing it at they same place with the same sound system.

4:22 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

This is NOT surprising behavior from the VEGA camp. I have heard of a few other situations where others' equipment has come up missing. Alan MAY NOT be aware, but there is SOMEONE in his band that has some sticky fingers

4:29 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Crystal FGGTs

4:34 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

LOL crystal castles puro noobs!

4:37 PM  
Anonymous You'll Get Yours said...

there's something irretrievably hilarious about people within the CC camp using this comment section to defame Vega, which is what they've done 4 times in the last 45 minutes.

4:39 PM  
Anonymous Hitting skins across the nation, even when walking uptown with my dalmation said...

Crystal Arseholes cancelled in London a while back too. Pair of mope twats, no doubt.

4:49 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...


4:49 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

listen to that interview from indieverse, alan explains everything eloquently. he's clearly telling the truth:


4:51 PM  
Anonymous morgan said...

thanks for posting about this! i was one of the pissed off people waiting outside last night not knowing wtf was going on inside. love the granada for being so great to the disappointed ex-fans of CC!

4:54 PM  
Blogger pete said...

no matter who's fault it was the Granada shouldn't have left fans standing in line for 2 hours, either cancel the shit or let cc blow your fucking speakers

4:54 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

pete i think you're missing the point. the granada was never concerned with them blowing the speakers, that was fabricated as an excuse by the band. the granada tried to avoid cancelling the show

4:59 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

alice glass=moron

5:11 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

@ 4:29 p.m.

What the fuck are you talking about? They've only played a handful of live shows and our friends have opened for them at at-least half of those. There's been no such talk. Solid dudes.

5:11 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

crystal cunstalz

5:12 PM  
Blogger Jordan said...

I guarantee you more will be said about this unfortunate event when Crystal Castles and Co. are sued by the promoters and the management of the Granada Theater. Who manages these guys? I'll be sure never to do business with them ever, in the future.

5:18 PM  
Anonymous Drocessi said...

CC could not have chosen a worse time or place to behave this way.

Kind of love it, though.

5:23 PM  
Anonymous theOCMD said...

Inexcusable and unprofessional. Period.

5:34 PM  
Blogger Jordan said...


It looks like they're no strangers to lawsuits. It's really not that difficult to conduct business in a courteous, professional manner. Another example that incompetence is running rampant in this world of ours.

5:37 PM  
Anonymous courtneybird said...

yeah waiting in that line for nothing was a bunch of bullshit. ethan kath was pretty bummed but for some reason alice was m.i.a.

5:49 PM  
Anonymous josh. said...

i am friends with the guys in VEGA, i know alan, jason, and ron on a very personal level, i know that all three of those dudes are legit, super sweet guys. i know that none of them would try something as ignorant as stealing from another band...especially one that they once held in such high regards and had a lot of respect for.

i have also performed at the granada on several occasions, and on even more occasions i have gone to the granada to see shows...in all such experiences i have never thought the PA was to small or not powerful enough, if anything just the opposite. when i saw explosions in the sky perform there, i remember it being super super loud.

i have also had the opportunity to meet and hang out with mike from granada, he also is a really nice guy. he treated me and my friends/band mates with nothing but respect while playing there and while just hanging out there.

this whole situation is very lame and immature. i was never a fan of CC, but it is still aggravating to hear a band, that a lot of people do like, being so unprofessional and pompous. if you are going to act that way, at least dont try and slander another band or venue to make yourself look better. no respect.

funny thing is, in the end, this will probably do nothing but hurt CC's rep and put VEGA's name and music in front of a lot of new people...any press is good press when your a young band.

6:07 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

anyone who saw Mogwai at the Granada recently knows that the venue isn't scared of anyone blowing out their soundsystem. loudest show i've ever seen

6:11 PM  
Blogger Gambit said...

I wonder if the underlying issue wasn't jealousy... I was excited as shiz to see CC, but Vega was going to be a treat too! I almost wonder if Vega's following had something do to with them being booted. What with CC being whiny sniveling cunt baskets and all...

6:13 PM  
Blogger gotafli said...

Walked up to the ticket booth and they were sold out. SOOO glad I didn't get scalp tickets. That really sucks for the fans that waited in line. I'm sure their myspace page is lit up with angry fans.

6:13 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Disappointed big time! my poor feet went through pain while standing in line for 2 hours! I should've kicked Ethan from CC in the face when he came up to us and told us the same fucken lie about the Granada... I side with Granada all the way!

6:20 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Pathetic Children! Trevor Brown told you that years ago!

6:42 PM  
Anonymous pants said...

I'm a fan of CC, but it seems that CC is clearly at blame here.

6:56 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

anybody who's ever met Danny (vega mgmt) or alan himself knows that neither of those two are even capable of what CC accused them of. vega's going to be bigger than those washed-up assholes anyway, and he's not going to do it by being an asshole but by providing great music and being a genuine individual.

7:02 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

how much merch did vega sell in austin that cc could have sold if he hadn't played? hmm. throwing him off a bill on his own turf makes you do a double take.

7:07 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...


7:09 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hey I've got an idea...

I'll kick VEGA off my Dallas bill. VEGA whose leading man is a rather big name in the Dallas indie scene. VEGA who gets tons of coverage on one of the biggest blogs in the country, which also happens to be run out of Dallas.

Damn CC... You messed with the wrong people at the wrong time. Consider your reputation shot.

Your music sucks anyway.

7:30 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I was at the Austin show and it was unimpressive. They were just playing a record with their tracks on it and screaming over the top -- I know this because they bumpbed into the turntable during Crime Wave and the song just died and scratched out. I think they played for maybe 30 minutes then disappeared.

I'll never support anything they do again.

7:46 PM  
Anonymous Rodney Dangerfield said...

No respect. No respect at all.

8:01 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Let's destroy this shit no respect pretentious band. Fuck them, they deserve to die.

8:10 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

crystal castles are dickheads. i was also one to stand out in the line for 2 1/2 hours with a bunch of pissed off fans. way to disappoint your fans cc.

you lost alot of credit.

8:10 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

i've been to several shows at the granada and completely side with granada on this. i personally think granada is one of the best venues in dallas and i will continue to support them all the way.

cc....very disappointing.

8:13 PM  
Blogger skapocalypse said...

No comments on their MySpace page about this incident. Are they censoring?

8:30 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Yes, all negative comments to their MySpace are deleted

8:57 PM  
Anonymous Mr.Kitty said...

Alice and Ethan are the coolest people alive.


9:04 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

ppl assume just cause someone at granada says "it totally wasnt us" that it must be true. and if one band's show sounds good at a venue, sound system-wise, means every show will sound just as good every time is retarded, sometimes electronics dont work right, and if a band has a shitty show then everyone blogs and complains how terrible the sound was! they made a decision not to do a show they didnt believe in, and who cares if ppl had to stand around a few hours, what a friggin sob story. there are over 8000 hrs in a year, get over it.

9:08 PM  
Anonymous Dani said...

They cancelled because they got too junked out the night before in Austin. They've been shooting up so much they think they're the shit. They never were (they're music is pathetic at best, completely 2D shitty electro that's catchy), and they never will be with these antics.

Granada isn't gunna put up with it and C3 is certainly not going to either. Wake up CC! Get out of the heroin cloud and really take a good look at yourselves. Your time is about to be over!

9:08 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Crystal Crybabies

9:10 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

i was at the austin show as well. they were awful. 40 minutes tops. it was made worse by being at la zona rosa. $4.50 for lonestar! that's enough to throw lzr in the primadonna crowd too.

9:20 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

i got an idea: Crystal castles should go on tour w/ Japanther. cause those guys are assholes too. damn blogs, taking bands that COULD DEVELOP into quality acts and making them think they've already made it. some bands can't see past their own hype, i guess.

10:11 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

CC's actions last night were pathetic.
However, Vega's show at fallout was pretty impressive, didn't let CC ruin my evening.

10:33 PM  
Anonymous M said...

Yeah, we were at the Austin show too. We left very disappointed, I think they're set was only 45 mins or something, less than 10 songs. Alice is shenanigans, however at LZR she didn't sound good, I mean she is screechy usually, but it was overboard at LZR. Here's our blog post about it.

11:16 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

@Anonymous who posted at 9:08

This isn't about "artistic integrity," rather, it's about professionalism. You got it all wrong, dumb dumb.

The charm of a live music isn't being a "copy-paste" replica of your record, it's the human condition of being good, bad, whatever that makes people want to see a show. They want the band, not the record.

If Crystal Castles were truly a "band" or "artists" they would've said "fuck it, lets just play a show and have a fucking good time."

You think Stooges ever cared how good the soundsystem was? Fuck, they didn't even have soundsystems.
I bet you don't own Funhouse anyway, poser.

Additionally, if Crystal Castles truly cared about how their music sounded to their fans, a statement would've been issued addressing the incident, rather than this effortless "he said she said" bullshit.

Just goes to show bands don't give a fuck about the fans who pay them the ability to blow off whatever show they want.

11:31 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

This is bullshit. If crystal castles cared about their sound, they would hire a good soundguy. Or maybe they have a really shitty soundguy.

These hipster douchebags were doomed from the start. Fuck this band.

11:34 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Bleh! I waited so long! I saw Ratatat there and they made some loud fucking noise. CC just needs to chill back on the china white and play their sold-out show.

1:10 AM  
Blogger Travis said...

They probably could not get the vocal effect to work on her vocals. Since she has it on every song!!!! These guys fuckin suck!!!! They have no talent

8:53 AM  
Anonymous McKinsey said...

I don't know if I'll ever be able to get over what CC have done to everyone of us.

9:12 AM  
Anonymous Austiner said...

Wake up kids: the band obviously doesn't have a hookup in Texas.

Textbook junkie bullshit.

9:53 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Crystal Castles are one of the worst fucking bands on the planet these days... they're like a chocolate bar that looks amazing from the outside but is filled with pure shit on the inside.

Count yourselves lucky they cancelled and you didn't have to be subjected to their terrible, empty hipster, crowdsurfing shit!

One of the worst bands I have ever seen in my life. And I saw them twice to make sure. Thankfully I didn't pay for either of them.

10:22 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I just have to say this:
I know Alan from VEGA, HE WOULD NEVER EVER STEAL from ANY BAND, EVER. The man is truly one of the coolest guys ever. Fuck Crystal Castles.

10:56 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Poor Claudio, he sure has come a long way since his time with Cheerleader/Kill Cheerleader when they played small divey bars for 40 people. I guess the fame has gone to his head. He wont allow any pictures taken of him and all their shows are done in quasi pitch black.

so sad.

Claudio, you were a lot better at death punk. Please quit CC and do some real music

11:05 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I always knew they sucked.

12:51 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

It was fucking pathetic. I better get my money back for that bullshit.

1:30 PM  
Blogger brokenalphabet said...

HOLY SHIT. These guys just get worse and worse.

If you didn't already know, they ripped off a bunch of songs from some 8bit kids. They were released with the creative commons license, and CC took full advantage of that. They don't write their own music, they don't go to their own shows. Why the fuck do people give these posers the time of day?

Fuck CC.

1:51 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

on top of that the Granada theatre representatives offered a ticket to a show of your choice in 5-4-3-2-1 order versus actually paying us fucking BACK for our tickets. I've yet to get a fucking refund, and I stood in line waiting for two and a half hours sweating my balls off. Dallas, TEXAS you fucking suck for inadequacies for a prema donna bullshit band--you should know in advance when you book an electro band of that magnitude that some raunchy shit could happen. As for Crystal Castles--don't come to Texas and blame you canceling a show on the fucking sound system where you've decided to let your shitty fucking tour manager who wants to rape and expose you for every last penny book you at a no name place in Texas of all fucking places. Lastly, Crystal Castles, don't come to Texas and get too coked out to play. We all know you guys didn't know Texas coke was so bomb and we all know you guys were really just too partied out. Assholes.

1:55 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Are you retarded? They're giving you free tickets IN ADDITION TO a refund.

3:20 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

@1:55 it's all about reading comprehension, guy

4:10 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Crystal castles does what they want, who cares.
Its fucking awesome.

4:29 PM  
Anonymous jon said...

this is ridiculous!
c.c. just played at this bar: http://www.howardsclubh.com/ in bowling green, ohio, where i went to college. i've seen more shows there than almost anywhere else. and while it's a great venue and has totally decent sound it is by no means whatsoever a hi-fi system or establishment. for c.c. to complain about the system in a venue that seems much better equipped than a dive, townie bar is crazy... and probably not the real reason they cancelled.

4:36 PM  
Anonymous chernobyl said...

wow cc is fucking arbitrarily arrogant/disgusting for doing that

they have brought shame to toronto
alice glass needs to get her head out of her overly tight alternative asshole

5:46 PM  
Anonymous skatebus said...

i gotta have more kickdrum!

6:31 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

@ 1:55. READ your entire email if you actually got one from Granada. If your just passing rumors.. Here's what actually happened.

Granada NOT ONLY gave everyone all their money back for CC's mishap. They offered free admittance to any upcoming show. If your name was on the will call that night all you have to do is email granada with your top 5 list of upcoming shows and they will put you on one of the guest lists.
I'll be seeing Peaches in the near future. Promising, because I know they will actually perform.

6:53 PM  
Anonymous Rigoberto Lopez said...

I was looking forward to this day for 2 months now then my night was fucking ruined and i was shitfaced cause i wanted to have a good time that night i had to go to work hungover with the worst night of my life hanging over my head.

7:25 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...


9:41 PM  
Anonymous KILGORE said...

atleast Vega came through at fallout to make that night somewhat great.

11:07 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

lol im glad i illegally downloaded their cd instead of buying it

2:31 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Crystal Castles are awful. They're just doing shit Bubblegum Octopus and Scissor Shock have been doing for years, those bands just don't have a hot chick in them.

2:39 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I booked CC in Phoenix back when they were nobody for $500. They were kinda assholy already but nothing like these days. They played on a crappy ass drum kit that had been collecting dust in a garage for two years, they borrowed my friends amateurish yamaha keyboard. The venue was a local bar 500 capacity. They rocked the fuck outta that shitty sound system, I can't believe a system like the granada's was not up to their standards. CC use to be cool kids, when they came back to Phoenix opening for Metric I met up with them and drove them to get vegetarian burritos at the crappiest mexican drive thru before they djed an afterparty. I dunno what has happened to them. I think it might have something to do with their asshole manager and sound guy, I think CC just goes along with what they say or something. They have already cancelled 2 shows in Phoenix with less than 8 hours to doors both times. One of the times they decided to blow off Phoenix they gave a stupid excuse I don't remember but that same night they played a 2nd gig "exclusive encore gig" in L.A. See what I'm talking about??? They threw a little bit more money at them and they decided to blow off an official booked date. They re-scheduled for another date and they cancelled that one too because they said they got in a car accident, Health was supposed to open up for them but they had to do a lonesome one band show, it sucked because they are fucking awesome but nobody saw them, all the kids that were there to see CC left as soon as they heard CC wasn't playing. That time they did not even re-schedule and to this date they have not done anything to make it up to the promoter or their fans. That's fucking shitty, you can't keep doing that kinda shit, there will come a day when it will catch up with them and promoters will not want to even bother with them. As far as I know nobody has even tried to book them back to Phoenix and something tells nobody will anytime soon. I'm not sure if all the quick hype has gone to their heads or they have a real douchebag of a manager but they need to get their feet back on earth before their little 15minute ride is over and Alice goes back on meth...

(jk I don't really know if Alice has ever done meth, but it seems like a fair assumption to make, haha!!!)

5:10 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

crystal mess

10:06 AM  
Blogger Jheri Evans said...

Wow, this is really disconcerting. I'm thrilled with how the Granada is handling this, though. It seems like they really do care about their patrons.

8:01 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I am from C.C.'s hometown. They are two of the biggest ego tripping assholes around. They are absolutely HORRIBLE live. Complete shit. Do not support this band and let them tumble into obscurity quicker than they already were.

Look into the projects they were involved with before C.C. and you will understand what bandwagon jumping posers they are.


1:17 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Viva Vega!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

1:20 AM  
Blogger Caparicio said...

I support Granada theater on this one...Crystal Castles member Ethan, actually went out into the crowd and approached almost all the fans lying to their faces telling them that Granada did not want them to go on. Ethan stated that, "they didn't want them to play because they were afraid that they were going to blow their sound system", I now know that this was a lie. It seems as if gracing the crowd with his appearance was going to justify their actions. Ethan then kept stating, "will make it up to you", this might be bullshit as well. When I directly asked him if the show was going to be cancelled 20 minutes before it was officially cancelled, he simply ignored me and kept working the crowd...I guess he was trying to get the fans on his side before aligations were given that they cancelled because they were insecure about their perfomance. Crystal Castles seems to think that sending one member of the group into the crowd was worth the fee of the ticket and if this is the case the ticket was only worth $15.oo, which is not worth shit. I guess they thought that much of their fans...thinking that we would be bought off by simply gracing us with one members prescence;...maybe even the word losers might have been tossed backstage in the greenroom defining their fans, as they let them wait for fucking two hours. They lost 2 fans that night, even if I define myself a fan, I was barely even interested in their music. Mayber their parents still prepare their food with breast-pumps because they still act like children if they don't bother to act like professionals in their line of business.

2:24 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

where was Alice Glass in all this? She was literally nowhere to be found at the venue BEFORE or AFTER (or during) soundcheck. i suspect that may have something to do with why they canceled, and that they had no intention of every playing this show after Alice got too fucked up the previous night in Austin (see the photo on this very blog). Then their management concocted some bullshit excuse and tried to throw blame wherever it would stick (the venue, vega, whoever). moral of the story: lay off the junk, kids.

9:41 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

it's really awful that you guys feel this way-but i've heard the full story and i have to side with cc.
i've had no conflicts with the people in the band and i do think that other parties are making them out to be monsters. it isn't true.
half of what you're hearing is a lie.
i trust my source-and will take his word over anyone's any day.

3:18 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Share your sources side of the story.

4:22 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

he told me that there was no bass.
he also said that it wasn't about beer-but certain things that the other band did caused them to be removed from the show. this includes a distortion pedal and taking pictures where the guy shouldn't have been. there's more details-but i'll leave it at that.
believe who you want though-just consider all sides to the story before jumping to a conclusion.

9:13 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...


Crystal Castles fans are more pitiful than the band!

2:54 AM  
Anonymous Sam said...

let's face it. it's not the 1st time they've cancelled a show with a weak-ass excuse. here in brighton, uk they've fucked up on more than one occasion. i remember them supporting css about 2 years ago and their laptop/keyboards were playing up and they just spazzed out and stormed off stage i felt a l;ittle sorry for them at the time, although i thought they could have been less brattish but every occurence since has reinforced my belief that they are petulant chancers that want to take the money but sure-as-shit don't wanna play live.

3:54 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The fault here is with the band for the attitude but for me personally after reading the e-mail from the venue owner I wish he'd just kept it short and sweet.


Seeing many shows over the years like Mutemath there doing the Nirvana thing and smashing their instruments against the speakers, and seeing that the speakers have blown a few times over the years from bands that come through, the venue was perfectly within their right to protect the equipment.

9:09 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

to anonymous at 913... (cc's side of the story)...

The bass excuse: ridiculous. I doubt a renowned venue in dallas, where basically ALL the legit bands now play, would have NO bass. maybe the bass wasn't as loud as they wanted, but still play the fucking show and then never return to the venue if you don't like the sound instead of disappointing fans all together. That was a weak excuse to begin with.

The vega excuse: uhh... I think everyone here knows it wasn't the stupid beer excuse. That was a rumor and a mix up. Same with the pedal. it was an accident, as some random sound guy packed it up with vega's stuff because cc borrowed their guitar. and vega cleared it up with them that night when they realized they had it. If they were holding that shit against them for a fucking accident, well, they are just a bunch of fucking assholes. And the pictures shit! That's a cunt move anyways. who do they think they are? Plus, The guitarist from vega just wanted to get a picture of her playing HIS guitar, and their manager rudely yanked him away. Seriously, Who the fuck do they think they are? So yeah, they're still fucking lame for using petty/unjustified issues with vega to explain their cancellation.

Maybe you should look at both sides before you go defending a shitty-ass band.

9:28 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Crystal Castles set at Coachella was ridiculously amazing. I jumped a fence to meet them after the show and they were so sweet to me.

9:37 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

i have!
i still side with cc.
there's no reason my source would lie to me about it-as it doesn't affect me.
yes-they probably should have played the show-but he said it would've been inferior to their usual live show and they decided not to take the risk.
it's not like they won't be back either. from what i was told-they're planning on making up for it.
i just felt the need to defend them as i have read pure bullshit and rude comments from several people.
anyway-think what you want.
i'm done.

4:27 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I saw crystal castles in LA at the echo and they walked off after like 15 min

fuck that

i don't put any of this past them

3:17 AM  
Anonymous Celeste Maroon said...

CC cancels shows ALL the time. They probably couldn't play this show because they were too busy getting in car wrecks or arrested or the same old tired excuses they abuse. Their music isn't worth any of this BS and that’s why they will continue to lose fans, like myself, until they slither away into reality television.

9:53 AM  
Blogger Matt said...

CC music still rocks. Sounds like they aren't always all together. But I'm guessing the next time they come around the fans that decide not to see them will be replaced by other fans that do want to see them. That's rock 'n roll.

7:21 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Yep, an endless supply of fresh fools to disappoint. Rock n roll.

10:41 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

From a Marketing Standpoint, it is a sheer risk for a promoter or venue to even think about booking Crystal Castles now for a show, they have really shot themselves in the face. They are a liability to the business, good luck ma`am and sir.

A true artist can perform no matter how crappy they think the sound is.

3:00 PM  
Anonymous Rich said...

CC were the best band at Coachella. Easily.

4:56 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

the show must go on. never dissapoint your fans. I cannot even fathum any band not going on because of the sound system at a venue, when a thousand of there fans lay in wait outside. period. unprofessional. I hope that they have rich parents, for there sake.

2:42 AM  
Blogger jonathan said...



12:29 PM  
Anonymous Justin said...

Just got through seeing the octopus project for free thanks to the granada. After reading all this about cc I'm really glad I saw the octopus project instead. I had a great time and the sound was fine in there. Crystal castles lost me as a fan and the Granada has gained one. It's easy to see the truth :)

1:46 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Too bad it took CC for Granada to finally fix their sound issues.

5:36 PM  
Blogger boone23howard said...

here's what it sounds like to me:

1. CC had a disagreement with VEGA, whether legitamate or not. this made them fairly un-stoked coming into the show to begin with.

2. during soundcheck, they asked for a louder or significantly more bassy kick (which was probably fine to begin with, and an unreasonable request--besides, what the band hears on stage differs significantly from the main front of house sound).

3. the sound tech tried to accommodate and offered to move the woofers to help expand the room's bass response, but knew from previous experience that he had reached his limit as far as volume in the woofers goes.

4. CC refused to play, already considering the show a failure, ignoring the paying, loyal fans waiting outside.

I've worked with a few bands-- bands that go as far as helping their crew load in and spending hours talking to fans before and after shows. I know that the image CC strives for gains them a rockstar reputation and extra press, but they are no doubt major assholes.


11:15 PM  
Blogger boone23howard said...

at least vega is getting some extra press after these assholes fucked up

11:17 PM  

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